stephanie is: 
beyond words…
“Please see the attached letter indicating the delivery date of the DS1 service for Daniel XXXX at XXXX Herndon, VA. Verizon’s construction crew has begun building facilities, however the completion is not scheduled until 3/24/01. We have escalated the issue for a better date and should any changes be made to this information, I will be in contact as soon as possible.”
aaarrghhhhhhhhhfehsskgfaewrgxnb!@#%&^@$!^@%!!! buttfuckers! what the hell do we do now?
ACK!!!
t1
Don’t you still have the t1 coming?
I thought that the dsl was an option, but you were gonna stick with the t1 since you didn’t want to start the wait over again.
Re: t1
that was something for the t1
What the heck is DS1?
A DS1 is a T1 circuit.
aaarrghhhhhhhhhfehsskgfaewrgxnb!@#%&^@$!^@%!!!
Well now, that sucks!
I want my….
I want my….
I want my STV
Are you sure you can’t get satellite Internet access?
Surely that’d be better than nothing.
I’m confused – Verizon is delivering the DS1 circuit?!
I thought Verizon only did DSL…
verizon
Verizon (used to be bell satanic) is the local telco. They own the equipment in the CO, therefore, they must deliver the loop.
Re: verizon
Ah, thank you – I did not realize that Verizon had gone into the local telco biz.
Down here in Georgia and in California, Verizon used to be GTE Wireless. In Georgia, Verizon’s competitor on the wirelss side was Bell South Mobility which is now Cinergy….Since I’m only familiar with Verizon’s wireless side, you can see my confusion not knowing they were into actual telco now. Thanks for clearing that up.
🙂
Verizon Sucks!
I’ve been waiting two stinkin’ months for a regular phone line! They called me today and told me that my phone line was working, but guess what? IT’S NOT! So at least be grateful you have a real working phone line!
damn
Sorry to hear that. On the other hand, I ordered my T1 and had a FOC date within a couple of weeks. The telco came to do the install the other day and I’ve learned that my apartment complex doesn’t “support” t1s. I feel your pain.
To avoid confusion:
ADSL is Asynchronous Digital Subscriber Line, available in different flavors it can download at 3 Meg baud, and upload at 56K (128K compressed) It is actually made up as partial T1, using 16, 32 or 64 static URL’s.
SDSL is Syncronous Digital SUbscriber Line, it works up to 3 MEG baud both upload and download. It is also partial T1. (SDSL is also often plagued with cross-talk and interference with voice and other data lines).
Both ADSL and SDSL can only work within 15,000 feet of a node. Verizon (and others) install the nodes. No node near you… no DSL!
Full T1 has 120 incoming lines, a very large installation fee, and costs about $3000.00 per month to rent from telephone company.
Cable modem service can sometimes reach 1 MEG baud or more, but this depends on distance from cable server. The farther away, the slower. Also, cable services often over-sell their equipment, so this also slows down speed.
Satellite hook-ups are fast, but only on download. Upload is still dependent on telephone line. (Unless you have a high-powered microwave transmitter to send signal to satellite.)
Fiber-optics can reach 10 MEG baud, but are rare and still expensive.
Oh, well, so much for techhie stuff.
I thought a T1 was only 24 64kb channels?
64kb*24=1536kb, or approximately 1.5 mb.
A T3 has like 625 lines or something. hehehe
A T1 is actually 23 64kb channels, 1.5MBPS. Not all T1’s are $3K per month, but people also have to remember that transit is seperate from the cost of the T1 itself, which is confusing to many and especially if the provider offers their T1 at say $900.00 per month, then the bait and switch thing occurs, because people don’t understand or know what transit is.
I thought it was 23 B channels and 1 D channel?
23B+D
If it’s a PRI trunk, then yes, it had 23 B-channels plus 1 D-channel, or if it’s an ETSI PRI trunk (European), then it’ll have 29 B-channels and 1 D-channel (I’m a little fuzzy on that one 🙂
A T1, which is also called a DS1, has 24 circuits, which are sometimes called DS0 circuits.
Re: 23B+D
In the states an ISDN PRI is carried over a DS-1 circuit. Since their are 24 64Kbps time slots in a DS-1, one ends up with 23 64Kbps B-channels and 1 64Kbps D-Channels, as you stated. In the case where there are multiple PRIs terminating on the same piece of equipment you can get 24B*n+23B+D, or 24B channels on all but one PRI.
There are different standards in Europe, Asia, and most of Latin America where one can get an E1, which is 30 64Kbps time slots. When one puts a PRI on this, the outcome is 29B+D. The same thing holds true for multiple E1 PRIs terminating on the same piece of equipment where it’s 30B*n+29B+D.
Re: 23B+D
Yup 🙂
“baud” does not necessarily translate into “bits per second” 🙂
Fiber-optic connections can and do go waaaaaaaaaay over 10 Mbps. DS3 is 45Mbps, OC3 is 155Mbps, OC48 is 2.4Gbps and so on… all the way up to OC768, which is roughly 40Gbps. Of course, even a DS3 to someone’s house would be unbelievably expensive (heh heh, one day when I’m a millionaire!!! 🙂
*drool* 40Gbps… mmmmmmmmmm 🙂
A friend of mine was going to sign up for satellite service from Starband (http://www.starband.com) but it was too expensive for him. It’s $70/mo, but that’s way cheaper than a T1!
But my point here is that they are 2 way satellite, and claim to be pretty fast.
From their website:
High-Speed:
The StarBand Service can download content up to 10 times faster than the fastest dial-up service. StarBand consumers can expect download speeds up to 500 kbps and upload speeds up to 150 kbps. And, your speed can burst even higher depending on when you are online. However, you may experience slower speed during peak hours which are typically weekday evenings. StarBand’s goal is to provide 150 kbps download speeds and upload speeds of 50 kbps during the busiest hours on the net.
Nationwide Availability:
StarBand service is available virtually everywhere in the continental United States, so you control your Internet access options regardless of how far away you live from the nearest telephone switch or cable node.
Be very careful here….DirectPC and Starband are only just recently offering 2 way service, most is only 1 way, with a modem going the other way, which *is* better than modem both ways. Also, weather affects the satellite and you need a clear southerly view or it won’t work. Setting it up is a hassle too, so I’d recommend anyone getting the service have it installed, because that 4 inch radius to get to the satellite in the sky is a pain… 😉
satelite
I looked into satelite when we first got turned down for dsl in Dec. It Could be a good thing one day, but I’d stay far the fuck away from it at least another year. It’s a new technology (at least for consumer use), and yes, in most it is only one way, then utilizing a dial-up the other. Not to mention, starband is through dishnet, meaning that the majority of satelite users, would have to get rid of their existing DirecTv satelite, or have to put up a second dish.
Re: satelite
Yep…I agree.
dsl
In St. Petersburg we have dial-up to Peterstar Communications, then they satellite to node in California. They use mostly for voice but friends there got line for us. (Also, I helped fix computers for them 2 Christmasses ago. They give me and Lena phone cards, too!) Then trunk line goes to Pennsylvania, where dsl goes to our office there. We have 16 static address coming over 1 regular telephone line from ISP near us. I helped install T1 for other local ISP, and they have 120 actual telephone lines, with bank of 120 modems. So, calling a T1 a DSL is not correct, at least not here. Other areas may be different. Friend is Network manager for Earthlink, and he helped Verizon set up DSL in Johnstown, also near us. At the time, Verizon was new to DSL’s and was a little lost for installation. I hope they have learned since.